Step One, Check!

So I found out late last week that I’ve been accepted into the graduate school program at IUPUI!  I’ll be attending at the IU School of Social Work, studying toward my MSW, or Masters of Social Work.  The application was lengthy, and they were careful to tell us that if we missed any part of it we would not be accepted.  It feels great to have accomplished step one of a 1,000 mile journey successfully!  Now, only 1,724,639 steps to go!

It got me thinking about all the goals I have had and still do have for my life.  All of the things I feel called to do.  I think back to when I was in about 3rd grade or so, when I realized I’d have to keep going to school 9 months of the year for at least another 9 years!  I remember being so bummed-out about that.  Who knew I’d go another 4 years after that, and then later another 4!  (Grad school will take 3, but I had to take a couple prereq classes last year).  Even to get to where I am now, back then, looking ahead felt so overwhelming.
The task of going back to grad school as a non-trad (Yikes! I do NOT want to talk about it!) seems to be a daunting task.  How is that going to go down, with me working and being a single-mom, too?  One step at a time, that’s how.  I will eventually look back and smile, and think how I could have given up, but just took it one day at a time.  I think many times we look at a dream of ours and think it’s too big to ever accomplish.  That old saying really is true though, a journey of a thousand miles does start with a single step.  What are you dreaming of?  See what the first step is, and take it, today!
There.  Now I have a post to go back to, to remind myself of how I need to keep things in perspective, when I’m ready to pull my hair out this fall!  Thanks for stopping by.

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LSW is an individual, marital, and family therapist. She specializes in couples and marriage counseling, individual counseling, group and family counseling. Nancy serves the surrounding areas of Carmel, Westfield, Zionsville, Fishers, and Noblesville. E-Counseling available for residents of Indiana.

©2010, Nancy Eisenman

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LCSW is a therapist at Peace Counseling Group, serving the greater Indianapolis area. Surrounding communities include Carmel, Westfield, Fishers, Geist, Noblesville, Brownsburg, and Avon. For more information, please use the contact form or call Nancy directly at 317.605.7015.

Address: 9640 Commerce Drive
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“Quite Unwilling”

I got tickled last night at my Bible class.  I’m doing a Beth Moore study called “Breaking Free.”  Wow, is it good.  I’m really enjoying it.

Beth quoted 1 Corinthians 16:12 that tells of Paul “strongly urging” Apollos to go somewhere, and Apollos being “quite unwilling” to do so, but that he would go when he had the opportunity.  The girls and I at Bible class were really having fun with that.  We were talking really about some issues of codependency going on in our lives, and every time someone brought up something they felt pressured to do by someone else, but didn’t want to, someone else would chime in and say “tell them you’re ‘quite unwilling.’”

It sounds easy, doesn’t it?  To just say in a completely pleasant voice that you just straight-up don’t want to take on a new project, or whatever it might be.  Some folks don’t take no for an answer that easily, right?  I bet Apollos had to say no more than once to Paul.  But what if we just kept reactivity out of it, and calmly and simply kept reiterating that we were “quite unwilling” to do it?  I think even the most persistent recruiter would eventually get the hint.

Try it out next time someone asks you to do something you don’t want to or can’t do.  Maintain a good tone, and be very pleasant and matter of fact.  You’ll be taking care of yourself in a healthy way without being unpleasant or ungraceful to others.

See ya next time you are quite willing to look me up!

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LSW is an individual, marital, and family therapist. She specializes in couples and marriage counseling, individual counseling, group and family counseling. Nancy serves the surrounding areas of Carmel, Westfield, Zionsville, Fishers, and Noblesville. E-Counseling available for residents of Indiana.

©2010, Nancy Eisenman

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LCSW is a therapist at Peace Counseling Group, serving the greater Indianapolis area. Surrounding communities include Carmel, Westfield, Fishers, Geist, Noblesville, Brownsburg, and Avon. For more information, please use the contact form or call Nancy directly at 317.605.7015.

Address: 9640 Commerce Drive
Suite 413 Carmel, IN 46032

Phone:  317.605.7015

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Codependency, Counterdependency, & Giving, Part 3

As I said before, there are many books covering the subject of codependency with a spouse or in other relationships. What if we took that a step further? What if someone is being codependent with something inanimate? Let me give you an example of a guy, we’ll call him Joe. What if Joe goes to work every day and comes home feeling unfulfilled, drained, and mentally exhausted? Joe is giving his all at work, and when he gets home there is nothing left for his wife and kids…or even if Joe’s not married, he doesn’t have enough for himself left at the end of the day. He’s giving too much. What is his payoff? You may say, “well, duh, the payoff is his paycheck.” Certainly that is something that is necessary. But why is Joe trading his long-term, life peace for a career that drains him? Is it really just money? Is HDTV really worth dreading his life’s work? In the case of workaholics, it goes even further…is it worth losing a marriage and having his kids grow up not knowing him? My bet is that Joe has some pretty huge fears going on. These fears are nothing to sneeze at, they are deep-seated and are rooted in childhood. (That’s a whole ‘nother subject, maybe another blog!) Let’s take a look at this situation another way though, through our current lens of codependency, and see what happens.

Joe is really giving to something that doesn’t meet enough of his needs in return. Maybe it’s meeting his needs for money, he may even believe in what he does; but it leaves him completely unbalanced in the rest of his life. That makes it unhealthy. When something drains a person like that and they continue doing it, they have become codependent with it. He has actually become a slave to it. Joe may say things like “I hate my job,” and he actually subconsciously “blames” work for taking too much and not meeting his other needs, for not praising him enough, for not giving back as much as he gives to it, or for not paying him enough. Now doesn’t that sound a lot like the codependency we’ve been talking about? Joe signed on for a certain job, amount of hours, type of work; and then he hates the job for taking too much. He gets fed up, angry, etc. and perhaps changes jobs…and then more than likely ends up in another job he doesn’t enjoy and does it all over again. Why? Because he’s only changed jobs, not the way he interacts with work, or the fears deep within himself.

It’s just like finding a new relationship, and reverting back to the same codependent ways. But really, if you’re like Joe…how can you blame an inanimate thing like your job for draining you? Your job doesn’t have behaviors or attitudes toward you. It just is. You may not even realize you are doing it, but look closely. Just as in relationships with people, you have a choice who you call friend, and how you interact with them (your attitude). And also just like with people, changing YOU can make all the difference in your relationship with your job, even if the job doesn’t change. You can change what you do, say, and think, change your boundaries with it, and doing so can completely change your relationship with anything, even work.

So what to do? You can leave your job and get another, and that very well could be the best thing and should be considered. If you are in a job that you know you would love if things/people/circumstances there were different, consider instead changing YOU and your attitude and becoming more interdependent with the job you have. The first thing you need to do is recognize and face your fears. One of the counselors in our practice, Jerry Wise, says that for codependents with this kind of deep-seated fear, “a known unhealthy thing is still far less scary than an unknown good thing.” It takes courage to consider and implement a changed lifestyle and attitude, venturing into the unknown. It takes courage to be there for yourself and make choices that can have consequences out of our comfort zones. It takes courage to have a voice and stand up for our needs, and to have good boundaries.

It’s very difficult and awkward to look inward and stand up and have a voice with “job”, (it doesn’t even have ears!), but stick with me. (By the way, I would insert here that I am not talking about having a voice with your employer. You certainly can do that if it is needed, but what I’m talking about is having a voice with yourself, and your own attitude regarding your job.) So the first question to ask yourself is this: “What are my needs from my job?” Of course we all work to make money and pay bills. It is necessity of life, after all. But ask yourself if you are expecting too much from your work. Are you really counterdependent underneath? Looking to your job to meet needs that it can’t? Looking toward your job to give you pats on the back and thanked, and so you can feel as if doing your job makes you a well-thought-of, worthwhile person? Are you only doing your job because that is what is expected of you, and you need the “attaboys”? Are you doing your job because making lots of money is what is expected of you?

So what does a changed attitude with your job, or any other inanimate object for that matter, look like? First, get your expectations down to realistic levels. Voice to yourself or write down, “this is what I can expect from my job, this is what I can’t.” Say in your own mind, “I need ‘this’ to have my needs met with work.” Then determine if your current job is doing that for you. If you need your work to make you feel worthwhile, you really are barking up the wrong tree. You need to feel worthwhile on the inside regardless of your work. If people at work, or the work itself (as can be the case with those who work in service of people daily) is draining, you are giving what you don’t have. In that case you need better self-care and better boundaries. If you want your work to give you pats on the back and you’re not getting that need met, the problem is a hole in your heart, not a problem with your job. If you’re doing your job because making a lot of money is what is expected of you, look at what is really realistic to meet the needs of this life and if you are making enough money for that, then you are being responsible enough. Any excess of that is overcompensation for pain in your heart.

I’m speaking of an entirely different outlook, and it takes courage to look at it, and even more to implement it. I think if you get to a place where you are healthier and more interdependent in all of your relationships, you can be happy no matter what you are doing. By all means, go after your dreams and don’t settle; but until you can realize them, see everything as a blessing, a chance to learn, a stepping stone on your journey, a part of your path. Give for the wrong reason, and you will be drained and depleted. Take care of yourself, don’t abandon your own needs, have a good, strong, healthy voice, and you will then have a well-spring of giving and loving to share, without the draining or counterdependent backlash. You can do this without being selfish. Use moderation. By learning to take from others (not too much but just enough), by learning to give and developing a joy for it, by learning to rest and take care of yourself without being lazy, and to be content with what you have.

Whew. Ready to move on to something else? Maybe someday we’ll do some more on this subject, but for now…Let’s roll.

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LSW is an individual, marital, and family therapist. She specializes in couples and marriage counseling, individual counseling, group and family counseling. Nancy serves the surrounding areas of Carmel, Westfield, Zionsville, Fishers, and Noblesville. E-Counseling available for residents of Indiana.

©2010, Nancy Eisenman

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LCSW is a therapist at Peace Counseling Group, serving the greater Indianapolis area. Surrounding communities include Carmel, Westfield, Fishers, Geist, Noblesville, Brownsburg, and Avon. For more information, please use the contact form or call Nancy directly at 317.605.7015.

Address: 9640 Commerce Drive
Suite 413 Carmel, IN 46032

Phone:  317.605.7015

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Codependency, Counterdependency, & Giving, Part 2

So we left off talking about how many codependents actually expect a trade instead of truly giving. I wanted to expound on that a little bit. You know, when a codependent person interacts with people in this way, expecting others to meet their needs in trade without asking them, it really is a form of manipulation. That’s a pretty harsh word, but that’s really what it is. Think about it, they’re doing something nice for someone so they’ll unwittingly give them what they need back. And if/when the person doesn’t meet their needs, or give-in to their manipulation, they get bitter.

Codependents are almost inevitably very bitter people if they are over the age of about 30-35, having lived for years giving (manipulating) with little or nothing in return. They are basically holding a grudge because people have not given in, read their minds, and have had good boundaries! In couples relationships, many times codependents give up, go “Coke-bottle” a few times too many, cut-off from their spouse sexually or otherwise, go to counseling or a lawyer, and end up not being able to get over their perceived betrayal of their mate who’s not meeting their needs. These folks feel as though they’ve been victimized. If you find yourself feeling as though this is describing you…let’s just give this mentality a good yank right now. You have NOT been victimized. You have been a willing participant in allowing what your life has been like, not leaving sooner, choosing your mate, and saying “I do.” Those that do not inwardly digest this truth will more than likely end up divorced, and move on to another relationship where the same pattern will begin again.

I wanted to cover another idea in this post as well. Not all giving is selfish or manipulative. I am not talking about healthy giving behavior. I’m talking about codependence. You might ask, “How can I tell the difference? If I am thinking I’m selfless and good and others are benefitting etc., does that automatically mean I’m really a selfish codependent underneath?” That is a resounding NO. This may sound simplistic, but the difference really is in the attitude. Give yourself a little litmus test by asking yourself a few questions:

• “How do I feel during and after my ‘service’ to others? Do I feel angry? Resentful? Fulfilled?”

• “Did I expect a ‘thank you’ that I didn’t receive?”

• “Do I really have the time or inclination to do this?”

• “When I was asked to do this, did I want to say ‘no’?”

• “If I wasn’t asked to do this, and I’m not enjoying it, why is that?”

Think about if you are giving out of the joy and excess love in your heart, or if you are giving because you want something in return. Anything at all: praise, thanks, for the other person to give you what you need back, or to be appreciated. Or are you doing it because you enjoy whatever you are doing for your family, friends, church, coworkers, etc.

I have the good fortune, if you will, of understanding first-hand what both codependence and counterdependence look and feel like. If you have one, you have the other somewhere (even if it’s buried)…one is just usually more prominent. Mostly in my relationship with my husband, I was codependent. Let me share with you the two best paradigm-shifting insights I received that got me on the road to recovery from codependence. The first insight is from the book by Cloud and Townsend called “Boundaries”, a must read for codependents. (I’m paraphrasing here, not quoting.) The fruit of the Spirit of self-control does not mean you keep your mouth shut and don’t have needs or boundaries. It means that you have control of your self, your space, your body, your needs, and your mouth. It means getting your needs met respectfully, gracefully, and non-manipulatively, and not tolerating the company of people that dishonor them. If someone does dishonor your respectful boundaries, then it is healthy to employ some distancing from them. Self control does NOT mean silence and submission. (The book also has some good discussion on the “wives, submit to your husbands” verse in the Bible.)

The second insight that really helped me can be paraphrased by a comment I made on another blog on this very topic.  This is what I wrote:

“I think it’s very difficult to reconcile wanting to be selfless, and…our true, healthy neediness. As a CHRISTian, I’ve lived my life as other-focused and giving and selflessly as I could. Then I learned through counseling that I needed to have good boundaries and stand up for myself and my own needs. Reconciling the two outlooks that seemed so opposite each other was SO difficult! On the one hand, I didn’t get what I needed and felt empty, and on the other hand I was being selfish and was not being a good CHRISTian. Catch 22!  Standing up for my own needs felt selfish, at first for sure. As I have gotten more emotionally healthy though, I have realized that it’s really a kind of paradox: taking care of me, and not abandoning myself or my own needs, allows me to then turn around and truly, selflessly, and almost tirelessly have a joyful well-spring of love for others. And instead of draining me, caring for others really energizes me. But it was hard for me to understand/realize that it would be that way, particularly early in recovery.”

That’s a lot more to digest, so I’ll leave it there for now. Check back in a day or two, if you can stomach it…I’ve got more!

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LSW is an individual, marital, and family therapist. She specializes in couples and marriage counseling, individual counseling, group and family counseling. Nancy serves the surrounding areas of Carmel, Westfield, Zionsville, Fishers, and Noblesville. E-Counseling available for residents of Indiana.

©2010, Nancy Eisenman

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LCSW is a therapist at Peace Counseling Group, serving the greater Indianapolis area. Surrounding communities include Carmel, Westfield, Fishers, Geist, Noblesville, Brownsburg, and Avon. For more information, please use the contact form or call Nancy directly at 317.605.7015.

Address: 9640 Commerce Drive
Suite 413 Carmel, IN 46032

Phone:  317.605.7015

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Codependency, Counterdependency, & Giving, Part 1

I’d like to do a little series of blog entries on codependency, counterdependency, and giving. I’m not sure how many posts it will entail, but it’ll be a few. (I know I promised not to use too many big therapy-type words, but I’ll give you some definitions, because I sure as heck didn’t know what they meant a few years ago before I started my recovery work! I had never even heard of them.) So anyway, let’s just jump on in, starting with those definitions.

Codependency manifests itself in many ways. The textbook symptoms are passivity, being other-oriented, overly needy, not having a strong voice, etc. Codependents do not have good boundaries with others. But if you really look underneath these behaviors closely and honestly, there actually lies the exact opposite of them as well: all codependents have an equally strong, mostly hidden, concurrently functioning counterdependent side, too. They inherently are, and can for a short time become, independent, overly confident, self-centered, and have a very loud voice also. I’ve heard it described as “the Coke bottle effect.” If you have a warm bottle of Coke and shake it up, eventually when the top is popped, you are going to be covered with a sticky mess. That’s what happens with codependents. The counterdependent side shows itself when they are pushed beyond what they can bear because of their weak boundaries and unmet needs. Allow me to explain further.
Codependents seemingly work and work for the benefit of others, selflessly giving to meet others’ needs. When it comes to their own needs however, they are too passive, and they do not have a strong enough voice to ask that their own needs get met. They lack good boundaries and let others take from them until they are emotionally, and sometimes even physically, depleted. None of this is news; there are multiple books available discussing codependency, and I’m betting you all know someone like this or are someone like this! I would like to explore a bit deeper what is underneath these behaviors, and in later posts, some other ways that codependency can manifest itself that are less mainstream.
Now, I’m gonna rock your codependent world. Ready? Being other-oriented in a codependent way is actually in a strange paradoxical sense self-serving. Yes, you read that correctly. A selfish codependent? That’s an oxymoron, right? How can someone who gives so much to others be labeled “self-serving”? In one simple way, by being selfless you can put yourself in the position of a martyr. You codependents out there, be honest with yourself. Why are you letting yourself be so other-oriented that you become worn down and tired of it all? What’s the payoff? You ARE getting a payoff, or you wouldn’t be doing it.Is doing for others turning you into a (pardon me) nag? Are you routinely sarcastic and cutting, or maybe a tad whiny? Or maybe you just collapse at the end of the day, emotionally exhausted? Can you take a look at yourself and be that honest?
All of this is because of the real, underneath reason you are “serving others”: because of your underlying need for attention, acceptance, or both. You may have a hard time seeing or admitting it, but give yourself a little test. If you feel drained by all you give instead of energized, or if you feel like you can only give if the recipient is grateful, or if you feel under-appreciated…then you ARE driven by these motivating factors. Look deep and be truthful with yourself, and you will see that I’m right.

You need others to tell you what a great person you are, how wonderful your giving is, and to be well-thought-of , respected, or liked for all you do. You have a need to be thanked. You have a need to be validated. Maybe you just want to be a “good person.” You want God to think well of you and bless you. You want to be a good CHRISTian. It could be any number of reasons that are motivated by a desire to “be good.” (And let me just say, it’s not bad to want to be good!) But the truth is, if you get worn down and tired out by giving of yourself, you absolutely are looking for and getting something in return for what you give, and that makes it ultimately self-serving and unhealthy. It stings, but it’s the truth.

Which need are you trying to get people (or even God) to fill: acceptance or attention? When you give, what are you expecting in return? Giving with an expectation of something in return is not truly giving, it’s trading. And you are expecting something in trade that the other person more than likely did not agree to!! (I would also add that it has no component of grace to it! Grace is impossible in the presence of expectation.) Ultimately, your motivations are self-serving, and out pops your counterdependence. If you feel depleted or are looking for something in return, you are giving to try to get some of your underlying needs met, and you are not having good boundaries with whatever is depleting you. You are being codependent and simultaneously counterdependent, and not as graceful and giving as you think you are. That’s the unhealthiness I want to illuminate.

That’s enough for now. Chew on it awhile and tell me what you think. Look again soon for the next installment; I have a lot more to cover!

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LSW is an individual, marital, and family therapist. She specializes in couples and marriage counseling, individual counseling, group and family counseling. Nancy serves the surrounding areas of Carmel, Westfield, Zionsville, Fishers, and Noblesville. E-Counseling available for residents of Indiana.

©2010, Nancy Eisenman

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LCSW is a therapist at Peace Counseling Group, serving the greater Indianapolis area. Surrounding communities include Carmel, Westfield, Fishers, Geist, Noblesville, Brownsburg, and Avon. For more information, please use the contact form or call Nancy directly at 317.605.7015.

Address: 9640 Commerce Drive
Suite 413 Carmel, IN 46032

Phone:  317.605.7015

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Come Down From Your Tower

A friend of mine the other day was talking about a woman she was working with on a volunteer project.  This other lady was talking down to her, insulting her, and basically “being snotty” for no visible reason at all.  (My boss just blogged about why this lady may have been acting this way in a good post titled “Hurt People Hurt People,” check out Mark Smith’s blog link below.) So anyway, my friend, who is a CHRISTian lady and sweet as could be, said to me, “Why do people like that make me want to act so unCHRISTian-like?”

It made me think of something I heard once, I believe it was in Yancey’s book on grace, that was a quote I believe was attributed to the Dahli Lama.  He said, “I love your Jesus, but I don’t like your CHRISTians.”  There is a good reason for this, and I can see why he said it.  He said it because most people in the world, even CHRISTians who are held accountable to this standard by non-believers, do not practice the incredibly difficult art of repaying ungrace with grace.
When it comes down to it, we just aren’t perfect, and we are oftentimes so wounded ourselves that anyone coming near us gets a tongue-lashing for stepping too close our woundedness.  Those are the walls that keep people at arm’s length and keep us armored from the world.  I think of a beautiful princess being cooped up in a high tower of a castle, and no one can get to her.  Really though, the princess yearns for love and connection.  She just doesn’t realize that there is a way out of her tower, and she has the power to have visitors anytime she wants.
I do not believe we are meant to live our lives isolated and behind walls.  We need to have good fences (boundaries), of course, so that we don’t lose our own place in the world; but we are not meant to cut-off from others.  Like the lady at the beginning who was being “snotty,” isolating herself from others and lashing out in her pain.  Instead of isolation, we need to insulate ourselves with good boundaries, and instead of high walls, have short fences with gates in them.  It allows people to see who you are, and those that are safe to come into our hearts for a visit, without completely cutting off from anyone who may hurt us.
So when you run into someone who is giving you a healthy dose of ungrace, do the hardest thing, and return that ungrace with grace.  You will be amazed at the way it walks right around the high walls people have, and softens them.  The world is full of people living walled-off and for themselves, hurting in solitude.  In the presence of true grace, they will drop everything and listen intently, because more than anything, I believe it is what people long for the most: to figure out the way out of their towers.  Grace lights the way.
Thanks for coming by.  Stop in again soon.

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LSW is an individual, marital, and family therapist. She specializes in couples and marriage counseling, individual counseling, group and family counseling. Nancy serves the surrounding areas of Carmel, Westfield, Zionsville, Fishers, and Noblesville. E-Counseling available for residents of Indiana.

©2010, Nancy Eisenman

Nancy Eisenman, MSW, LCSW is a therapist at Peace Counseling Group, serving the greater Indianapolis area. Surrounding communities include Carmel, Westfield, Fishers, Geist, Noblesville, Brownsburg, and Avon. For more information, please use the contact form or call Nancy directly at 317.605.7015.

Address: 9640 Commerce Drive
Suite 413 Carmel, IN 46032

Phone:  317.605.7015

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